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Started by Alec Satin Mar 3, 2011. 0 Replies 0 Promotions
This tarot was created around the year 1650 in the region of Marseille in France. While it's slightly different than most Tarot of Marseilles decks, it still can be classified as a TdM. Take a look…Continue
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Comment by Silvia Cabriales on February 22, 2013 at 2:36pm
Comment by Violet Harlow on September 21, 2012 at 10:35pm David-
That was an excellent explanation- thank you so much. The concept of mental space totally clicked it into place for me. As well as the evens/odds imagery. I want to pick them up and appreciate them with new eyes!
Be wel- Violet
Comment by David Lee on September 19, 2012 at 1:40pm To Violet and others who are having a problem with the Swords and the Wands:
On the most basic level, notice that the Swords are curved, forming an oval shape, while Wands always cross each other, forming an X (possibly with extra 'points' in the middle for the odd numbers.)
On another level, the pictures on the pip cards can become symbols for that card's meaning. When this happens for Swords and Wands it's easy to see the difference by gazing at the center of the card. Space is created between the curved swords, as in a mental space; the flowers depicted there for the even cards may represent mental calm, while the swords which are present on the odd cards suggest mental action, perhaps a 'thrusting' out into the world from a mental place (when looking at the tips of the odd center swords, which can often look like something being birthed from a womb.)
Meanwhile, the crossed wands in the center of a Wand card almost 'burn' with energy (even though the coloring here will vary depending on your version) while the wands radiate out from it, suggesting action and movement in the world.
There are many ways to interpret the imagery, of course, and these are just examples. But once you start working with the deck and deriving meaning from the cards, it should be easy to tell the difference between the curved Swords and straight Wands. Also, as in Violet's picture, I believe each version of the deck will have two different color schemes for each suit's cards.
I hope this helps!
-David Lee
Comment by Claudia Alejandra Torres on July 22, 2012 at 10:57pm I am happy to join the group, since my first tarot deck was Marseille,I never cease to fascinate this deck, kisses to the whole group:)
Comment by Kathy on May 27, 2012 at 3:02pm I was wondering if someone could help me find some information for my new (old) deck I just came across! Here are some images
There is no ISBN number and I can't seem to find anything about it!
I have read some information on other decks, but I can't seem to find any on this exact one. Can someone help or direct me to where I might find some info?
Thanks so much!
Comment by Violet Harlow on May 2, 2012 at 7:40pm Aww, thanks. Let me explain a bit my issue:
It isn't the decks' select meanings yet is the visuals of swords and wands look almost identical. I stare and go- is it a wand... a sword???
I never spent much time discerning the pip images. So I use other decks... the above looks pretty obvious, but upon quick glance, with uniform color schemes, it throws me!
Comment by David Knappett on May 2, 2012 at 1:22pm Hi Violet, If it helps, you can learn the Rider Waite deck cards and their meanings, then relate back to them as you use your Marseilles deck. For a quick instance...if you drew the 2 of swords, picture in your mind the 2 of swords in the Rider deck,with the lady and the 2 crossed swords where she does not know which way to turn-a choice has to be made...then back to your Marseilles deck and read out your card there...I hope this helps you. Warmest Regards David.
Comment by Violet Harlow on April 29, 2012 at 9:15pm Hi there,
I was gifted a tiny Marseilles deck a while back and although I love them for what they are, I found the pip imagery confusing as per the swords and wands, being similarly illustrated. I occasionally take them out of their cubby and give them a go, but still wind up in the same predicament. Any Suggestions regarding this matter?
Thanks,
Violet
Comment by David Knappett on December 11, 2011 at 10:56am Hi Alec, My deck is Tarot of Marseilles by B.P.Grimaud 1973. I has the words : 1748 B.P.Grimaud 1930 around the 2 of Coins. The box lid has: Ancien Tarot de Marseille written on the top.
Comment by Alec Satin on March 4, 2011 at 12:19pm Is it the Angel Tarot that was made by the Angel Playing Card company of Japan in the 1980s? You can tell because it's got a brownish plaid pattern on the back. Also, you can read Angel Playing Card Company on the ribbon around the 2 of Coins.
If so, you've got a really nice deck. There a review, "Confessions of the Angel Tarot" here: http://tarot.alecsatin.com/angel-tarot/
Alec
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